Are you getting what you pay for? How much is that time in the doctor’s office worth to you? How much is it worth to the doctor?

Let’s examine a case.

The following is based on an interaction between a married couple, Andrew and Dana, and a neurosurgeon. Andrew had been experiencing neck pain for years and found it was worsening in severity. He had an MRI of his neck that showed no major issues. The neurosurgeon reviewed the negative cervical MRI report with Andrew at his initial appointment and ordered a bone scan and an EMG test to try to pinpoint other causes. Andrew and Dana had already learned at the time of the EMG that it was negative. Dana accompanied her husband to his follow up appointment to find out the results of the bone scan.

The couple recorded and transcribed the appointment for my review.

Dana and Andrew arrived at the office at 7:20 for the scheduled appointment time of 7:30. No one showed up to open the office until approximately 8:07. They were taken back to an exam room at about 8:28. The doctor entered the exam room at 8:50.

“If you look right here, you’ll see that there’s an area…an increase…right in here…arthritis…” Dr. Neurosurgeon mumbled, “Have you ever had your shoulder looked at?”

“No, sir,” answered Andrew.

The doctor said nothing in response.

“What does that mean?” Andrew asked.

“Uh, I’m a neurosurgeon so…I would send you to somebody who takes care of shoulders.”


“Okay,” said Andrew. “So like a…?”

“An ortho person?” Dana offered.

“Yeah, that’s who,” said Dr. Neurosurgeon, “a shoulder specialist.”


“So give me an idea of what you’re thinking after seeing this. What type of issues…” asked Andrew.

“I think it’s a shoulder issue,” Dr. Neurosurgeon replied.

“So a mechanical issue as opposed to…” they were almost begging for information. “Muscular or…”

“So you have a shoulder problem,” he said.


“So who might you recommend?” they asked desperately.

Dr. Neurosurgeon gave them a name and told them that the receptionist would set up an appointment with the shoulder surgeon he named.

That was it. The couple basically had to beg for information and ended up with very little. Now I understand it is outside of Dr. Neurosurgeon’s specialty to identify images in a bone scan but he was not the least bit sympathetic to Andrew and Dana’s desire for information. He could have given at the very least an outline of what the shoulder specialist might look for and explain that he was not qualified to predict the outcome.

He could have said: “I’m sorry, but issues that don’t involve the central nervous system are outside the scope of what I’m comfortable addressing. I am happy to send you to Dr. Boneanmussle who will look at this scan and maybe order more tests to see if you have a shoulder muscle kerfizzle or bone splatazzle or something else entirely. I understand you’re eager to pinpoint the reason for your pain. I wish I could tell you more but our scheduler Ms. Gitterdun will get you set right up with Dr. Boneanmussle’s office. I apologize for your wait and I hope I have given you at least some information.”

That would have taken 45 more seconds.

In 27 years of practice he hadn’t figured out a better way to communicate? As a neurosurgeon he’s just not that smart?

No, he is that smart. He’s just that uncaring. He sees no reason to expend energy improving his communication skills because he doesn’t think his patients deserve any more than what he currently offers. He doesn’t believe he owes them more than he is already giving them. And no one is holding him to a higher standard of communication.

Would you accept this level of communication from your cell phone company customer service person or from your auto mechanic? Of course not. In a comparable business transaction you probably would have asked for a supervisor or simply taken your business elsewhere. But this is health care.

The encounter lasted two and a half minutes. Andrew’s insurance was billed $129.00. His insurance contract reduced the charge to $93.04. That is a billed rate of $51.60 for each minute of face time with the physician. Insurance reduced that charge from $51.60 a minute to a mere $37.22 per minute of doctor face time. My educated guess is that the doctor spent about five minutes reviewing the bone scan and three and a half minutes documenting the appointment. So we’ll say the doctor spent 11 minutes total on Andrew’s case. That’s still a billed rate of $11.73 per minute, reduced to $8.46 per minute by insurance. Andrew’s insurance agreed to a rate of $507.60 per hour.

In contrast the couple had been at the office for one and a half hours. They had a forty minute round trip commute to the office. It took seven more minutes after seeing the neurosurgeon to schedule with the shoulder specialist. That means Andrew had invested well over two hours of his time to get two and a half minutes of interaction with a doctor who didn’t tell him shit. He had to dip into his paid time off allowance to go to this appointment. Andrew makes about $37.50/hr. Dana freelances so we’ll leave her income out of the equation. According to work.chron.com, after six years in practice, the average salary for a neurosurgeon is about $589,500 a year, or $283.41/hr, based on a 40 hour work week. This surgeon has been in practice for 27 years so I think that is a conservative salary estimate. Just imagine if Andrew had made the current minimum wage of $7.25 an hour with no paid time off. Imagine how that loss of work would have affected the family’s finances!

With these types of money for time disparities Dr. Neurosurgeon should have been a little more sympathetic to Dana and Andrew’s inquiries. I fully understand the costs of staff and other overhead, but charging $129.00 for two and a half minutes with a physician who offers very little information is unacceptable.

Twilah H is a recovering patient. She studied Philosophy with a concentration in ethics at the University of Kansas. Through writing, meditation, relationship building, and quilt creation she has found a place of peace.

2 thoughts on “The Real Cost of Healthcare

  1. I’ve been to several specialist trying to diagnose and treat pmdd since its onset at 15 years old as well as sciatic endometriosis at 21 years old. I’ve been referred, deferred and given the runaround. Neurologists are the worst, they act like a programmed copy of a text book with no common sense! There needs to be an “angies list” for doctors so patients can effectively seek out treatment from someone (Dr.) who is willing to take the time to understand or at least guide them in the right direction! I was self diagnosed with help from my sister who is a psychologist with several pmdd patients, she was willing to look at the big picture. Why? Because she cared!!

    1. Jannicke I’m sorry to hear that doctors have refused to hear you too. I’m really glad you had your sister to tune to. It is a shame that so many of us are dismissed and our perspectives are given no credibility, especially when our lives are at stake. I wish you the best in your battle with PMDD. Thanks for speaking up, the more voices of PMDD, the better.

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